tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post4902378497363844811..comments2023-11-30T00:41:47.585-08:00Comments on Shreds: Clarifications: And I'm Not Talking About WisconsinGinohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post-86289580137617432692011-02-26T18:24:39.876-08:002011-02-26T18:24:39.876-08:00If the PEUs were apolitical, it wouldn't be as...If the PEUs were apolitical, it wouldn't be as much of an issue. But there's no way to avoid that. The conflict of interest is huge when you can effectively choose the people you're negotiating with.<br /><br />The dirty little secret about some PEUs is that they don't really do much on the labor side for work rules. My wife works for the county library system and she could tell you some stories that would amaze you. The AFSCME local she belongs to is amazingly feckless when it comes to helping out the folks it purports to represent.<br /><br />The real issue here is that Walker's proposal essentially makes Wisconsin a "right-to-work" state, which makes it exponentially tougher for the unions to collect dues.<br /><br />It's about the money. It always is.Mr. Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920907647566015611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post-46473289619042310812011-02-26T08:18:00.936-08:002011-02-26T08:18:00.936-08:00Teachers, on the other hand, love to hold captive ...<i>Teachers, on the other hand, love to hold captive students hostage with strike threats, knowing the difficulty of taking business elsewhere.</i><br /><br />Teachers, heck, look at what happens every time government overspends-- "ooh, we have to cut police, fire, parks, lower the hours at the DMV and get rid of things people like-- rather than cutting the number of assistant deputy secretaries to the assistant secretary of waste prevention." Heck, up here in Washington they're slashing funding for the state fairs-- which actually make a good chunk of money-- but they want to spend nearly a hundred times what they'll "save" on making it so we can give illegal aliens driver's licenses. And the free birth control for college kids is safe.Foxfierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10161683096247890834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post-68678266088675749132011-02-26T01:59:58.695-08:002011-02-26T01:59:58.695-08:00heh...
i have a union for a reason, and in my line...heh...<br />i have a union for a reason, and in my line of work i'd be stupid not to.<br /><br />but i also have checks in the marketplace.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post-18402463468198115992011-02-26T01:25:02.925-08:002011-02-26T01:25:02.925-08:00I jumped nothing. The reason you don't want to...I jumped nothing. The reason you don't want to have government employees able to negotiate their wages and benefits as a group is because I can't find another acceptable agency to give me a license plate for my car. And I just don't see why.<br /><br />But let's see how much better you can negotiate on your own compared to a union. Go ahead. Give it a whirl. And good luck with that.RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post-80345819638003093312011-02-25T22:33:33.476-08:002011-02-25T22:33:33.476-08:00you're jumping...
we all negotiate our pay, un...you're jumping...<br />we all negotiate our pay, union or no union, collectively or independently, so that accusation makes no sense.<br /><br />its about how negotiations happen. personally, i think we could solve much of the problem by not allowing public employee unions to spend union cash on political campaigns, or endorse candidates.<br /><br />as for your son in law: somebody would take his place.Ginohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09606046924332159076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6875716674621937836.post-24596267316106053822011-02-25T21:47:36.405-08:002011-02-25T21:47:36.405-08:00Government workers should not be able to negotiate...Government workers should not be able to negotiate their wages and benefits because I can't go get a license plate from somebody else. This is the argument?<br /><br />I'm not sure I see the direct link between cause and effect here but I have a sneaking suspicion that's not a good enough reason. They should just get what we pay them and that's it? I don't see the incentive of making public jobs a career, then. If my son-in-law the cop wasn't looking at that pension he's due after putting his ass on the line on the south side of Chicago, I'm sure he'd have stayed a bartender. <br /><br />It's one thing to discuss the integrity of a contract already on the books. But that isn't striking them null, as you wanted to do in the first case.RWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14416316296228157208noreply@blogger.com